john mccain and lindsey graham, meeting and welcoming the muslim brotherhood and the white house doing that. and we haven't been serious about getting behind secular forces in the middle east, the same way we were getting behind anti-communist parties in the cold war in europe. recreating that would be a much better way to go in my opinion. >> as you look at that part of the world, it's volatile. we know that terrorists are there. and we know next door, the french are fighting in mali to drive out terrorists there and they've asked for our help. we've got a situation in turkey where we've just put patriot missiles on the ground to help them out because they've got a civil war next door playing out inside syria. going forward, i mean, it sounds like this needs to be a part of the world where we engage, but how do we engage without putting our people in harm's way? >> right, well, we should be be smart about doing it. and a relatively new african command and that's the overriding story. the nexxis of the islamist insurgency in many ways was central asia in the last kek dade and it's look